Episode: Getting High Return on Investment through Co-Living Rentals with Johnny Wolff
Guest: Johnny Wolff is the CEO & Founder of tech Company, HomeRoom. HomeRoom is one of the fastest growing co-living companies in the U.S. Johnny founded HomeRoom after a career as an analyst in Silicon Valley and then relocating to Austin, TX.
Big Idea: Investors can obtain outsize returns by investing in co-living housing. Co-living is a trend where many young people prefer living with roommates for social & economic reasons. This trend exists throughout the U.S. and a new industry is arising to provide a professionally managed experienced to both residents & landlords.
Episode: Join Johnny Wolff, Founder & CEO of HomeRoom Coliving, as he shares the keys to unlocking passive wealth through real estate and how to get a startup off the ground with no money and no experience!
Guest: Johnny Wolff, Founder & CEO of HomeRoom Coliving. Johnny’s passion for making cities more accessible and livable for everyone led him to convert a single-family home to a group home for his friends, which sparked the idea of multi-tenant real estate investing – HomeRoom was born.
Big Idea: Today we are welcoming back to the show Johnny Wolff, Founder & CEO of HomeRoom Coliving! Johnny was previously on the episode 194 to discuss getting high return on investment with co-living rentals, and today we’re building on that conversation as we explore the strategies and techniques to achieve maximum returns from real estate investments and innovations. We’ll also discuss how to launch a startup without money or experience, and delve into the major changes Gen Z will bring to the way we live and work, such as delaying marriage and living with friends into adulthood.
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View the Episode Description & Transcript Here:
Dan Breslin: Johnny Wolff is the founder and CEO of HomeRoom Coliving. HomeRoom is a YC, that’s Y-Combinator funded real estate management and investment company that has built the technology and team in several well-selected real estate markets throughout the US to allow investors to amplify their real estate rental returns while minimizing vacancy. This can also be done at a distance which we will discuss on the show today. We are also welcoming Johnny back to the show as he was a guest on episode 194, and a lot has happened in that year and a half or so since he’s been on the show.
Today, we’re going to discuss how to get high return on investment with co-living rentals. We also dive deep on how important market selection and deal size can be in generating long-term investment returns and wealth. And we’re going to dive deep on how he and I both think about market selection as well as deal selection. Let’s jump right in. Welcome back to the REI Diamonds Show, Johnny. How are you doing today?
Johnny Wolff: I’m doing really good, Daniel. Nice to see you again.
Dan: Yeah, for sure. So, for listeners who have been around a while, I can’t remember and I will link to the show notes. I think it was about a year and a half ago maybe that we talked. For anyone who maybe didn’t check that episode out yet, why don’t we begin with the quick elevator pitch of business model, if you will, for HomeRoom in the context of the real estate investor audience and why that might be important to them.
Johnny: So, just a really quick two-sentence description is, we help investors purchase homes remotely and rent out each room separately. And the benefits for investors that are going to rent out each room separately and investment property that they buy, is that rents can be substantially higher because you’re chunking down the space, creating additional services for the for the tenants. And so, we’ve seen an average of between 30 and 60% more rent for investors using this model.
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- Insights into how Gen Z will shape future living trends
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Dan Breslin: Welcome to the REI Diamonds Show. I’m your host, Dan Breslin, and this is Episode 194 on getting high return on investment through co-living with Johnny Wolff.
Johnny Wolff is the CEO and founder of the tech company, HomeRoom. HomeRoom is one of the fastest-growing co-living companies in the US. Johnny founded HomeRoom after a career as an analyst in Silicon Valley and then relocating to Austin, Texas, where, in both markets, he actually lived in co-living situations.
Today’s discussion centers around how investors can obtain outsized returns by investing in co-living housing. Co-living is a trend where many young people prefer living with roommates for both social and economic reasons. This trend exists throughout the US, and a new industry is arising to provide a professionally managed experience to both the residents and the landlords. Shall we begin?
All right. Welcome to the REI Diamonds Show, Johnny Wolff. How are you doing today?
Johnny Wolff: Good, Daniel. Super happy to be here and thanks for having me.
Dan: Nice. It’s an interesting business model. So when the booking agents connected us and floated you as a potential guest, I noticed this like, renting rooms kind of a thing, and it probably would be helpful to hear the origination story. Maybe what was the background, some of your experience, even pre-real estate investing? Certainly, a business model now. And then cap it off with kind of the business model as it stands today.
Johnny: Sure. For the last few decades, I’ve lived with about fifty different roommates. I think it’s kind of ongoing growth. I still live in roommate houses. But it really started after college. I lived in Silicon Valley. I worked in finance for technology companies and startups in the bank. And when you’re in Silicon Valley, you rent rooms. You don’t buy houses because they’re all million dollars.
And so we kind of developed different ways of finding new roommates on Craigslist and betting them, and then having really cool dinner parties. And honestly, our roommate house is like the hub. Some people lived alone, but they were boring. And people that lived in roommate houses, they’re the fun ones, and they had the cool stuff going on.
So I move to Austin, Texas in 2015 to invest in real estate more actively. I have been investing in single-family homes in Texas since 2008, which was about a year after I got out of college remotely and wanted to do that up close. And so I moved to Austin, bought a number of properties there in 2015, and turn them all into roommate houses.
And it was difficult to cash flow. It’s impossible to cash flow in Austin or very difficult. We can do it with home remodel, but it was pretty hard back then, too, with a standard rental and good area. So by renting by the room, I was able to get a lot more rent, and that enabled me to buy more aggressively while I was down there.
I moved to Kansas City in 2018 to kind of do it again with a different type of property. I kind of think of Austin as a really awesome appreciation potential market, but Kansas City is really stable as it gets cash flow. So I wanted to balance my portfolio.
And then when I moved here, I had a lot more trouble finding roommates than I had in Austin and San Francisco and thought maybe it’s about time that someone figures out this whole find-a-roommate situation where it’s not through Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace, and it’s not sketchy and weird and uncomfortable.
So that’s why I started HomeRoom in 2018, and we’ve, since then, housed over four hundred roommates in Kansas City, Austin, and Dallas. And yeah, we’re pretty happy campers on the tenant side. Now, we’re partnering with investors to buy these properties in these cities and happy investors as well.
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Johnny & I Discuss Getting High Return on Investment with Co-Living Rentals:
How to Get 20% more free cash flow than conventional rentals
Tech Stack Developed to Run HomeRoom
Risks involved in owning Co-Living Rental Property
Scaling to more than 325 Rooms in Several States
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