Investing in Hotels with Mike Stohler
Guest: Investing in hotels with Mike Stohler. Mike is a former commercial airline pilot, Navy veteran, and co-founder at Gateway Private Equity Group. Including apartment complexes, houses, and hotels, Mike has owned or operated over 1300 units. Seeking value-add opportunities and higher returns, Mike pivoted from multi-family to hotels and now focuses exclusively in this niche.
Big Idea: Investing in Hotels is really a two-fold investment. First you’re investing in the real estate where the hotel is located. Second, you’re investing in the business of running that hotel successfully. Because of this dual nature, hotel investing can be riskier than other real estate investments while offering larger & faster returns when executed properly
Episode: 213, “Tom Dunkel: Strategies to Build Wealth Through Alternative Assets”
Guest: Tom Dunkel is an experienced entrepreneur and corporate finance leader who specializes in value-add self-storage investments, distressed mortgage note investing/dealing, private lending, and private investing in multi-family and self-storage properties.
Big Idea: Tom Dunkel is an experienced alternative asset investor who has completed over $40MM of transactions in fragmented, dislocated markets such as distressed debt and self-storage. He has over 25 years of real estate and investing experience, including $1.2B of middle-market M&A and financing transaction experience. Tom is passionate about helping alternative investors build wealth while improving communities through disciplined real estate investment initiatives.
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Dan Breslin: Tom is an experienced entrepreneur and corporate finance leader who specializes in value add self-storage investments, distressed mortgage note investing in dealing private lending, and private investing in multi-family and self-storage properties. Today, Tom and I are going to discuss this $40 million plus of transactions in fragmented dislocated markets, such as distressed debt and self-storage. Tom also has over 25 years of real estate experience and investing experience, including $1.2 billion of middle market M&A and financing transaction experience.
We’re going to discuss the internetization. Yes, I made that word up. The internetization of real estate as a trend, especially pertaining to the self-storage real estate industry. We’re also going to touch on market selection and of course generating high passive returns. Let’s begin. Hi, welcome to the REI Diamond Show Tom, how you doing today?
Tom: Doing great, Dan. It’s great to be with you. It’s been a long time.
Dan: Yeah, for sure, so for listeners, Tom and I go back to the early days, probably 2006, when we were both dipping our foot into the Philadelphia Regional Real Estate Networking meetings.
Tom: That’s right.
Dan: What a path since then, right Tom?
Tom: I know, man. It’s been quite a wild ride, but I wouldn’t change it for the world. I know about you. It’s been a lot of fun.
Tom & I Discuss Real Estate Development:
- Pitfalls for High-net-worth Investors and How to Avoid Them
- What are the Hidden Risks for Self-Storage Investors
- Why should I Consider Participating in an Equity Syndication
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Dan Breslin: Today’s guest, Mike Stohler, is a former commercial airline pilot, Navy veteran, and co-founder at Gateway Private Equity Group. Including apartment complexes, houses, and hotels, Mike has owned or operated over 13,000 units. Seeking value-add opportunities and higher returns, Mike then pivoted from multifamily to hotels and now focuses exclusively on this niche. Investing in hotels is really a two-fold investment. First, you’re investing in the real estate where the hotel is located. Second and maybe more importantly, you’re investing in the business that is running that hotel successfully. Because of this dual nature, hotel investing can be riskier than other real estate investments but at the same time offer larger and faster returns when executed properly.
Dan: All right. To give some background, maybe you just want to start with the evolution of your real estate career and what your business looks like today.
Mike: Sure. Yeah. I’ll try to keep it quick. I’m a little bit older. I got started, I caught the PG days, the pre-Google days, and absolutely failed. I did probably what a lot of you did is I read Rich Dad, Poor Dad, got excited, bought some tickets to seminar land, and then bam! Okay. I’m in small-town Indiana at the time. Buying was the easy part and then I didn’t know how to be Atlanta[?]. I’m like, “Okay, wait, there’s the paperwork? What’s the least- get out. Oh, I need a 5-day notice[?]. I didn’t know anything, right? I couldn’t google anything. I failed and failed miserably just because I just didn’t know what to do. We don’t have podcasts. We don’t have mentoring. We didn’t have any of that back in the days.
If I needed a tenant, it’s like, what do I do? Put an ad in the newspaper, and it’s the old day of doing things old way. Fast forward, now, what I did is I learned. I was like, “Man, this is the way that I need to do it. This is how you make money. Real estate is it.” I actually went to work for a property management group because I was like, that’s the part that- the buying was the easy part, but how do I get experience? How do I get a mentor? I actually went and worked for them and I learned that end of it.
I learned how to be a landlord because there are two parts of [inaudible]. You’re an investor, but then once you get the asset, how do you become the landlord of someone who wants to stay in your asset? You have to learn both sides of it. That’s what I did. Then I started in 20- about ten years later, this is probably 20- during the recession time period. I started getting back into it because I was like, “Okay, there’s going to be some deals. I now have money. I have some cash. I have a good job. Let’s get back into it.”
Fast forward, I went from fourplex to 2 hotels, to 20 homes. I owned, managed around 1300 units of multifamily, and I did that within about a 7, 8 year time period.
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Mike & I Discuss Hotel Investment:
Repositioning Hotels while Enjoying Cash Flow
Site Selection-Finding the Right Location
Recognizing Profitable Hotels Post-Covid
Outsize Returns from Investing in Hotel Deals
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